RFS: brainparty

[Johannes Storm]

Dear mentors,

I am looking for a sponsor for my package "brainparty".

* Package name : brainparty
Version : 0.6.1-1
Upstream Author : Paul Hudson <***@gmail.com>
* URL : https://launchpad.net/brainparty/+download
* License : GPL3
Section : contrib/x11

It builds these binary packages:
brainparty - Brain Party is a fun, free puzzle game
brainparty-data - Brain Party is a fun, free puzzle game (data files)

The package appears to be lintian clean.

The upload would fix these bugs: 576630

My motivation for maintaining this package is:
This is my first package and i created it during reading the
debian-manuals and a RFP in wnpp. I hope to learn with this package all
i need to become helpfull.

The package can be found on mentors.debian.net:
- URL: http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/contrib/b/brainparty
- Source repository: deb-src http://mentors.debian.net/debian unstable
main contrib non-free
- dget
http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/contrib/b/brainparty/brainparty_0.6.1-1.dsc

I would be glad if someone uploaded this package for me.

Kind regards
Johannes Storm

[Paul Wise]

Post by Johannes Storm
I am looking for a sponsor for my package "brainparty".

...

Post by Johannes Storm
 Section         : contrib/x11

That should be contrib/games.

Why is it in contrib? Seems like you are the author so you could make
everything freely licensed. None of the dependencies look non-free
either.

Post by Johannes Storm
brainparty - Brain Party is a fun, free puzzle game
brainparty-data - Brain Party is a fun, free puzzle game (data files)

Since this is a game, you might want to join the Debian games team,
find sponsorship and help us maintain other games:

http://wiki.debian.org/Games/Team

We are having another meeting soon:

http://wiki.debian.org/Games/Meetings/2011-06-XX

[Johannes Storm]

hi thanks, for fast reply.

Post by Paul Wise

Post by Johannes Storm
I am looking for a sponsor for my package "brainparty".

...

Post by Johannes Storm
Section : contrib/x11

That should be contrib/games.

i will change it.

Post by Paul Wise
Why is it in contrib? Seems like you are the author so you could make
everything freely licensed. None of the dependencies look non-free
either.

i am not the upstream author. i was unsure with the licenses, because in
brainparty-data are some sound-files under Creative Common (see
copyright-file). perhabs someone can say me if CC is also a free license
and i can take the stuff to main/games.

Post by Paul Wise

Post by Johannes Storm
brainparty - Brain Party is a fun, free puzzle game
brainparty-data - Brain Party is a fun, free puzzle game (data files)

Since this is a game, you might want to join the Debian games team,
http://wiki.debian.org/Games/Team
http://wiki.debian.org/Games/Meetings/2011-06-XX
--
bye,
pabs
http://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise

thanks
by johannes

[Sven Joachim]

Post by Johannes Storm

Post by Paul Wise

Post by Johannes Storm
I am looking for a sponsor for my package "brainparty".

...

Post by Johannes Storm
Section : contrib/x11

That should be contrib/games.

i will change it.

Post by Paul Wise
Why is it in contrib? Seems like you are the author so you could make
everything freely licensed. None of the dependencies look non-free
either.

i am not the upstream author. i was unsure with the licenses, because in
brainparty-data are some sound-files under Creative Common (see
copyright-file). perhabs someone can say me if CC is also a free license
and i can take the stuff to main/games.

CC-BY-SA 3.0 is a free license AFAIK, but CC-BY-ND 3.0 clearly is not.
And the license for the Soundsnap files

Soundsnap's licence allows all use, commercial and non-commercial, as long as you
do not "Resell or distribute the sounds 'as they are'. For example, you cannot download
and sell them as part of a CD library."

does not seem to allow distribution at all.

Cheers,
Sven

[Paul Wise]

Post by Johannes Storm
i am not the upstream author. i was unsure with the licenses, because in
brainparty-data are some sound-files under Creative Common (see
copyright-file). perhabs someone can say me if CC is also a free license
and i can take the stuff to main/games.

Some CC licenses are DFSG-free and some are not.

Looking at the CREDITS file, CC-BY-ND is non-free and so is soundsnap's license.

There is only one audio file with a DFSG-free license
(electricity.ogg) and I doubt that a compressed audio file is the
preferred form for modification of it, the authors website mentions
"many software synthesizers" but does not offer any downloads of the
relevant settings for them:

http://www.alexanderblu.com/AlexanderBlu/The%20Music/Music_Electricity.htm

Along the same lines, the package includes a copy of the FreeSans
font, which is GPLv3 but does not include the source code for it. This
is a GPL violation, please get upstream to fix it.

Also, lots of the images include text, some of which is definitely not
FreeSans or similar. Please talk to upstream about rendering the text
at runtime or build time.

The package should be moved to non-free unless the above changes.

[Johannes Storm]

Post by Paul Wise

Post by Johannes Storm
i am not the upstream author. i was unsure with the licenses, because in
brainparty-data are some sound-files under Creative Common (see
copyright-file). perhabs someone can say me if CC is also a free license
and i can take the stuff to main/games.

Some CC licenses are DFSG-free and some are not.
Looking at the CREDITS file, CC-BY-ND is non-free and so is soundsnap's license.

i am in contact with the upstream author. he will dropping the soundsnap
files. perhaps he also can replace stuff with CC-BY-ND so the package
becomes free.

Post by Paul Wise
There is only one audio file with a DFSG-free license
(electricity.ogg) and I doubt that a compressed audio file is the
preferred form for modification of it, the authors website mentions
"many software synthesizers" but does not offer any downloads of the
http://www.alexanderblu.com/AlexanderBlu/The%20Music/Music_Electricity.htm
Along the same lines, the package includes a copy of the FreeSans
font, which is GPLv3 but does not include the source code for it. This
is a GPL violation, please get upstream to fix it.

what does it means »source code of a font«? isn't the included ttf file
enough?

Post by Paul Wise
Also, lots of the images include text, some of which is definitely not
FreeSans or similar. Please talk to upstream about rendering the text
at runtime or build time.

if he use freesans in his images, can't he publish the images as is? i
understand you so, that if he use other fonts (and don't paint all by
himself) he also have to publish a license for this fonts. is this
right?

i think the upstream author is interested in distribution this game as
package, so he will change his project.

by johannes

[Paul Wise]

Post by Johannes Storm
i am in contact with the upstream author. he will dropping the soundsnap
files. perhaps he also can replace stuff with CC-BY-ND so the package
becomes free.

Excellent!

Post by Johannes Storm
what does it means »source code of a font«? isn't the included ttf file
enough?

Just like Firefox or Linux has source code, so do fonts.

The TTF file was built from some text files using the program
FontForge. The source code is those text files:

http://cvs.savannah.gnu.org/viewvc/freefont/sfd/?root=freefont

In any case the ttf is just an embedded font copy, the package should
depend on the font not include a copy of it. So please ask upstream to
remove it from the source code tarballs.

Post by Johannes Storm
if he use freesans in his images, can't he publish the images as is? i
understand you so, that if he use other fonts (and don't paint all by
himself) he also have to publish a license for this fonts. is this
right?

The main thing about the font stuff is that rendering text into the
images makes it impossible to change the text (in case of a spelling
error or similar), especially when we don't know what the fonts are.
Also it prevents translating the program to languages other than
English. Please tell upstream to render text at runtime and use
fontconfig to find an appropriate font.

Post by Johannes Storm
i think the upstream author is interested in distribution this game as
package, so he will change his project.

Cool :)